Gloom in the air on final day at Bangkok October 08, 2009, Bangkok   The atmosphere of doom prevails. As was evident after the G77 press briefing, developing countries are extremely upset with the developments in Bangkok. With less than a day to go now all talks have shifted to what would happen in Barcelona. It is clear that the political will and the message to move forward are missing in the developed countries’ delegations. As Sudanese ambassador Lumumba said today, it seems there is a no dialogues happening between the developed countries’ negotiating teams and their political masters back home. “It seems as if the generals do not trust their troops down here in Bangkok,” Lumumba commented. It is also clear that the start of Copenhagen talks would not see finalisation of an outcome. Any outcome might be stretched till the last night in Copenhagen. “Prospects of success at Copenhagen have dimmed after this Bangkok meeting,” said Martin Khor, executive director of the South Centre, an intergovernmental organisation of developing countries. Bangkok was supposed to be a major milestone in the run-up to Copenhagen, but the existing problems still persist. Worse still, a fresh set of problems has emerged. Following the US model, most other developed countries are slowly moving away from internationally binding emissions reduction targets, towards the option of domestic legislation and targets. The effort is to enshrine these into a new treaty. “Many developed countries are jumping ship from KP to this new model. EU may also jump ship. If all developed countries leave the KP we may be left with an empty shell. You may say we are not killing the Kyoto protocol, but if it does not have internationally binding targets, it is of no use. It may be replaced with something very inferior,” Khor said today. This is nothing but slow dismantling of an internationally binding agreement. National targets cannot be treated the same as commitments made under the Kyoto protocol. “The developed countries need to rise to the challenge rather than race to the bottom with the US,” Lumumba said. The current commitments made by a few developed countries and blocks remain well below the levels, which science says are required. And over the last few days here, most developed countries have dropped out of making second phase reduction commitments. We are ready to close talks here in Bangkok with much lesser hope of an ambitious and equitable outcome in Copenhagen.     Post a comment     ON THE NEGOTIATING TABLE   • Shared vision • Mitigation • REDD • Sectoral approach • Adaptation • Technology transfer • Finance   OUR POSITIONS   • Agenda for Poznan pdf • Pressure point pdf • What's on the table pdf • C is for unclean pdf • Just framework pdf Climate inaction January 1, 2009 The climate talks in Poznan failed on all counts. The US was found missing in post-election inaction; climate-champion EU was squabbling over the economic pain of taking action; developing countries found themselves talking amongst themselves about what needs to be done to cut emissions. More Interview: It makes perfect sense to integrate the green dimension January 1, 2009 Guy Ryder, general secretary of the International Trade Union Confedaration, went to Poznan to attend his first UN climate meet. He sees green opportunity in the financial crisis. Pradip Saha caught up with him More Press Release December 04, 2008 CSE charts an agenda for action in Poznan, calls for tough action to reduce emissions and an agreement based on equity More         • Loaded communication • Hot Air • C for Change • WWW • Abbreviated Future (AF)     Visit our sites   Centre for Science and Environment http://www.cseindia.org   Down To Earth http://downtoearth.org.in/   Write to:   Pradip Saha psaha@cseindia.org   Poznan contact number 00447924001611   Contact info   Centre for Science and Environment 41, Tughlakabad Institutional Area, New Delhi. India - 110062 Tel: +91-11 29955124, 6394, 6399 Fax: +91-11 29955870; 29955879 E-mail: cse@cseindia.org